Welcome And Rahab Introduction

SPEAKER_00 0:23

Welcome to the Boundless Bible. My name is David Shapiro. Hey, I'm Javi Marquez. And I'm Jason Holloway. All right, welcome back, guys. Today I'm really amped up. We're going to be talking about a character by the name of Rahab who comes from the book of Joshua. I would say 85% of this is going to be on her. 15% is going to be because this book of Joshua is wild. And a lot of times people talk about the book of Joshua in church or in Bible studies and they talk about certain aspects of it. I will probably hit on other aspects of it that you might not have even known or not seen, but this book is wild. I just want to jump right into Rahab. And uh this is a moment where the Israelites are now back towards the land of milk and honey. They're back in Canaan. And Moses had sent 12 spies. Two came back, said, We should go. Ten of them was like, absolutely not. So what did Joshua do? He goes, Hey, I'm just going to send two spies in. Uh, so that way we hopefully get two yeses and we can obey God and go in. But these two spies, the first place they go when they go into Canaan is a brothel. Yeah. That's the first thing I want to touch on before we even start and go, oh man, where's this going? Two Israelites who know God, who just got his law, who spent 40 years for doing their own thing in the desert. And the first place they go is the brothel. Um, and and I'm gonna touch on that really fast. And I don't know if you guys know why, but the chicken wings, it's not said in the Bible. This is my my understanding of it, is they're spies, they're trying to be outsiders. Where would an outsider go when they first go to a town that is known for sexual immorality would be the brothel. So they're going to the brothel to keep up their being spies, and they're looking for information. So maybe they'll get information here rather than looking around and seeing where the guards are and stuff like that. So it's actually pretty brilliant, but something very interesting happens. I'm gonna say this and then we can talk about it. This is in Joshua 2, 1 through 4, and it says, before the men, and then there's two translations of it. Okay. One translation says lodged, depending on what translation you have, and another one says lay down. The Hebrew word originally was to lie with. So these two men were lying with Rahab, which is explicit saying these two men were lying down. So now you have two Israelites who go in, first place they go to a brothel, and first thing they do is lay down with a prostitute. They were tired. I don't know. I mean, what do you what do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 3:17

What's the problem there? Yeah, they had a nice bed. Yeah, like I I I think that's a complicated thing to deal with, but I I had never considered what you just said about they're not doing it out of a sinful nature. Yeah, they're doing it out of a when you need sketchy truths, you go to sketchy places, right? And I if anybody's watched Game of Thrones, which is I don't suggest for kids, you know, that's that is where, you know, traditionally speaking, you know, the the the dirt is. So it it does make sense. And I'm glad you said that because I'd never quite never quite put the two and two together, but I appreciate I appreciate the insight there. Makes sense. Again, my my insight doesn't specifically say it, but I I happen to think that that's probably why they ended up. Well, I mean, you have two choices, right? You have you have two choices. You can either imagine it's from sinful nature, or you can imagine that there is a plan or something slightly less nefarious than than the sinful nature. And I'm gonna choose to go with the non-nefarious version.

Can God Bless Messy Choices

SPEAKER_00 4:22

There you go. I like it. Yeah, um, and and and then we have the world's two worst spies. Yes, because literally, after they lie down with Rahab, the very next line is that the king knew that they were there. So it is incredible how bad of a spy they were. But they the king then goes to Rahab, and Rahab's first thing to do is to lie to her own people and say, Yes, I lied down with them, but I didn't know who they were, and they're gone. So this is just I'm setting up this story this way because the thing I want to talk to you guys about is you have Rahab who's a prostitute, you have Israelites who came into town, went to a brothel, lied down with a prostitute, and then you have the prostitute who's lying to her own people, and these are the people who are going to get what they want from God, they're going to get honored and a blessing from God. And and the question comes do can people do bad things for a good reason and be blessed by it?

SPEAKER_03 5:27

That's a big question.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 5:30

Can we take a five or ten minute break and then we'll get back into this?

SPEAKER_01 5:34

Let's ponder on that. I would say for me, it's for me, is more the other way about it. Is when you do bad things, God can make it for good. Right? I I see it more that way. As I read, you know, as I read Joshua and know the Rahab story, I haven't really gone that deep to think about them lying with her more than just being spies. Rahab, if I'm pronouncing that right, she obviously went against her own people. She she she lied and she did it for the greater good. And I like to think that God she she had an encounter with God, she had she had belief in the Israelite God. Not only that, I think um reading into Joshua and look reading into it, I know Israelites was becoming a force. They saw what they did in Egypt, they heard about these things. So Egypt, they were scared, they were fearful of the Israelites that was coming towards their town. And I think she was as well. So I think all that combined, she she she did it for the greater good. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 6:34

It's interesting you put it that way because you're right. One of the first things she says is, we know what you did in Egypt, and we know what you did in Sihon and Og or whatever that place is, and and we know what you we know how many people you've destroyed. So she has already seen something we talk about a lot in the in the Bible, which is the fear of God. So she has the fear of God, right? She knows those things. I don't I don't know if that means she's a believer or not. In that time, I think they were what was the name when you like they all believed in many gods? It's like I forgot there's another theistic, the henotheistic. That one came back quickly. Henotheistic, where they believed in multiple different gods and the and but each of them were unique and interesting and different, whatever. So so they were they were kind of henotheistic, which means she might have had her own god, but she also believed in that other god and and his power and so forth. So I don't know. I I it's interesting that like it sounds like she was already being converted, or at least understanding what the fear of that god was, and she was making the steps that it took. Does that mean that it was dishonest and lying and wrong? Yes. Did it also mean that she was taking steps in defense of something that she may have believed to be right? Also, yes. I notice I'm not taking a stance on that. I don't know. I'm just kind of like calling out things as I see it. I don't, I don't know.

Jericho’s Fall And The Sabbath Question

SPEAKER_00 7:45

No, I mean, but listen, even Joshua 2, 9 through 11, that's the part where she is talking about knowing God. Yeah, even when you look at that, you go, okay, how would she know of this? How would she know? And and she says, and to the men, I know the Lord who giveth you the land. So not only does she know about them and their conquest, but she knows that the Lord is going to give her the land. It's it them the land. It's really interesting because you start to realize that even in her knowledge, she's a prostitute and a brothel. Yeah, her knowledge is probably coming from other men she lied down with. Right. Um, this is not somebody who's a world traveler who is selling goods and on the market. She's somebody who is, as people are coming in, they are telling her stories of these people. So even how she gets her information is sinful. And what you look at in in the in this story seems to go against what we know of the laws and God's will and things like that. And I'm just gonna throw another one on real quick. This has nothing to do with Rahab. I told you it's gonna be about 85% her, 15%, you know, other things. Even in the destruction of Jericho, God says, Hey, for six days you're gonna walk around the the the city on the seventh day, walk around seven times, scream, blow trumpets. Yeah. The one thing that very few people look at is why in the world would God tell them to do something for seven days if they're supposed to keep the Sabbath? Oh, okay. Even that, you're looking at it going, this book is wild because God, I think, is telling us something different. And I think He's actually pointing us to legalism and hey, it's not just about doing the things that I've asked you to do in the law, but as the lawgiver, I can also use bad for good. I can change the Sabbath. I can do all the things we know about Jesus. I this this book is, when I tell you, filled with opposite things of what we think we know about God.

SPEAKER_03 9:46

Yes. I I found the same thing. I mean, I think I think the book of Joshua is one of one of the more interesting ones because of all the I mean, it's another one of those books that's just full of like meaning on top of literalism, on top of metaphor, on top of the I mean it's it's a phenomenally interesting book, even in the first you know, ten chapters. So can I ask a kind of a controversial question? And I don't have an answer to this. More than what David just said? Yeah, well, it's a different thing. More than the Rahab story?

SPEAKER_01 10:13

Do you want more? Yeah, you want to get more controversial?

SPEAKER_03 10:15

Well, actually, that's the controversy, is the Rahab story, right? Like I don't know about that time period and that ancient time period. Like we we have this tendency to say the word prostitute and mean something like, oh, you chose that path, and that was bad choice by you, and that was a, you know, you have chosen sin. There's a good chance, just throwing it out there. Or there may be a chance. Let me say not say there's a good chance. There's a potential that at that time prostitution wasn't. I mean, we uh we actually know that other religions believed in prostitution for the religious rights. I mean, that was a it wasn't considered by the other religions anyway a a sin or a negative thing or a or a you know a net negative. So we also shouldn't be so quick to put the prostitute in our context on her. We should understand it in context of what she, you know, it was something that went against the the virgin until marriage, you know, and then something else. It went against that. It went against the Christian God's version of righteousness and wholesomeness. But we I'm just saying, like she wasn't a Christian, so we can't exactly judge her or even understand her position as a prostitute in a brothel at that point if we don't know what that you know I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

I just yeah, yeah. I want to know. I it listen, this goes sorry, sorry, but this goes to uh what I just what I said, which is bad things for a good reason. Well, that's that's why my absolute favorite, yeah. My favorite musical of all time is Late Mr. Ab. And this is a person who stole for his family because they were starving and he stole a piece of bread. Yeah. Um, and and again, we can judge somebody and go, you're a thief, or we can look and go, Did you do it because you needed to rescue and save your family?

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Yes. Javi, what were you gonna say? No, I was gonna say I wasn't okay. The the whole prostitution stuff, it's obviously yeah, and in modern context, and even I can imagine even then, I mean, even with the Israelites, did they not believe in that at all? Or as the Israelites and righteous, of course, you know, and but I I think about more of the rehab story of the line and what you're the the door that not the line, but more the door that you're opening to to the town, right? So for instance, you're opening up the Israelites to come to this town to do what to destroy, kill men and woman, and children, destroy everybody except her and her family, and to leave it off. So I I think there's something bigger there, right? Like, why would you kind of do that to your people for this, you know, outsiders to do this, right? The Lord command this, and I can imagine there's a lot of stuff that's happening within the town that was really horrible and not good, and to be destroyed and wiped out was something that was bigger.

SPEAKER_03 12:56

So yeah, I don't really sit on the prostitution thing as much, but more that as we as we just go through that, I I'm it's just kind of in my nature to always give people the the benefit of the doubt. And I'm I'm even looking at it here too. It's like, look, I I don't know what kind of a prostitute she was, and that that's not to say that they're that it's a good thing, but it's to say that maybe there's more behind that than we are putting together in our current context. So even what you just asked, Javi, like why would she go against her people? Maybe they're the reason she's doing this. Maybe, maybe, maybe her city, maybe her culture was one that devalued her and you know, and and herself as a person and said, You must do that. Again, I'm not saying that I'm not reading into the Bible. Hear me clearly, I'm not reading into the Bible. I'm trying to look at it and say that it's very easy to say, oh, the bad person became a good person. Or it's even easy, like the bad person did a bunch of bad things and did them for good. And so that's I'm just saying we just need to temper these, you know, extremes by saying, maybe in that same world. And by the way, that would be a great story, and it's a it's a valuable story. But maybe the other story is this is a person who was in another way of life. She was to an extent forced into that way of life by the culture and the society that she was in, and she knew it wasn't right. She knew it wasn't. So when she saw that you know the good was behind that, was just across the wall, and she said, you know what? Sometimes you have to destroy to build. You guys, you're gonna come in here to destroy whether I let you or not. Look, you're gonna destroy whether I let you or not. This is what I've already seen what you did. You parted a uh you parted a sea, you destroyed kings, you have done all these things. I'm I'm not getting in the way. What I am gonna do is go with the right. And that's another great story for us too, right? Like I live in the world today, and the world has I I have put myself in terrible positions, and the world has led me to those terrible positions. And in order for me to find my faith in God, I had to destroy some stuff in in my past, right? And I had to let some I had to let God in the doors of my heart so he could break down a bunch of things. Anyway, I I'm just I I hear this conversation. I just hear this conversation going that way, and I just want to open it up so it doesn't sound so you know you one-sided.

SPEAKER_00 15:04

No, no, no. I actually love that you said that because it it's kind of where I go to when I ask why do you know people do bad things for good reasons? And the thing that I go to all the time is judgment. And we look at that and we go, we are judging her based on what we think and what our moral compass is. The same way that Javi, you just talked about destroying an entire city. People are judging God, going, God, why did you do this? Why did you have to do it this way? And I look at that and go, same thing we've talked about multiple times of why sometimes he does things for our purpose. We go, either they did child worship and sexual immorality, and God was so disgusted with it that he said, we need to destroy it, or he said, My chosen people I'm bringing into this city, I don't want them corrupted by this because they will be. Look at the first two spies who were corrupted instantly by this. And I mean, it's perspective. It's we think we know. Well, they were we think we know what's just, but they were going to and we really don't.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

They were going to the city to destroy it and wipe it out. And they also said, bless, I mean, curse anybody that even tries to make a land here or to even settle here. Wasn't that true? It was pretty much to wipe it out and move forward.

SPEAKER_00 16:17

There's different language about it. And again, this is conquest language from thousands of years ago, where when somebody says wipe it out, and then later on you see that they still have a city there. Uh, it's not quite wipe it out the way uh again, that's a a mistranslation that people also kind of put on God going, Oh, he's so mean, he said to completely annihilate these people. And it's not that's it's war language back then.

Archaeology And Walls Falling Outward

SPEAKER_01 16:40

I think, right?

SPEAKER_00 16:41

I think I I don't know this is they don't they the the Israelites settled there that we're talking the land laid barren after, but yes, I mean this is this is language where God is saying something very specific and and kind of fast-forwarding a little bit to the actual uh and this is my archaeological geekiness coming out. Um you have Rahab, you have Rahab, and she agrees. And they say that she had a dwelling attached to the wall. Yeah. And what you see in archaeological studies, there's actually houses that were attached to the wall, which they didn't think was. There was one that was actually partially still standing when they found the the archaeological dig. I'm not saying it's 100% her house, it's just very interesting that the story we can look at as symbolic seems to have also happened. They found the city, they found how it went, and the wall itself, if there was an earthquake, things would have fallen in different directions. Or if you're gonna conquer a city and you're going in, you're knocking the walls in. What we see here are the walls everywhere actually fell outward, yeah, just the way God said in the Bible.

Scarlet Cord And Jericho March

SPEAKER_03 17:48

So it's just yeah. I mean, let's let's actually talk about because we we we skipped the whole walls falling. We skipped the whole walls falling part and went straight to the the archaeology of it. But let's talk about the walls falling. I mean, so so quick quick recap. Rahab says to these guys, listen, you're about to take it down. I'm gonna help you get out, but under under one condition. If you spare me and my family, and we can be a part of your, you know, we can we can join your tribe essentially. And and they agree, and there's a big interesting thing there. We'll go back, but one of the reasons, one of the ways that the the the two spies tell them that we'll know you is by you're gonna put a red thread on your door frame. Passover anyone, yeah, Jesus and the blood, anyone. Like it's it's all these things, right? It's all this precursor stuff. So then that happens. The the guys get away, long story how they get away, and and eventually it's time to invade the city, right? Really cool stuff here. I think this is really cool stuff here, and I won't get into the the symbology of this, but like there's a lot of stuff about water. There's a lot of stuff about people having to cross water, they have to cross water onto dry land, all the symbol, you know, the symbolism there of water often means either cleanliness, right, and holiness, or it means chaos and disorder and confusion. So they're both crossing over the chaos and disorder into the dry land, or they are cleansing themselves as they move from one to the other. Really super interesting stuff. I'm trying to get back to the wall, sorry. And and then it comes the wall. And so God tells them go around the wall, what is it, six six days?

SPEAKER_00 19:20

Six days, and then the seventh day you go seven times around. Yeah, and then you pull the trumpets and make noise.

SPEAKER_03 19:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

And what's gonna happen?

SPEAKER_03 19:27

And then their walls are gonna fall out. And the walls are gonna fall down. So that's where this whole thing about the walls falling came from that we were that we were just on, is that the you know, it's easy to think that the that even if this was a quote unquote literal story, a lot of people would say, well, they would have they would have fought in, right? They would have knocked the walls down from the outside. You have to push in for them to fall down, walls don't fall out. So if what you're talking about, the the archaeology stuff is true, it's very, very interesting that they're that the walls don't look like they're falling towards the inside, they're falling towards the outside. So it's just an indicator that there was something more divine at play than a bunch of soldiers using battering rams to knock the walls down.

SPEAKER_00 20:09

Yeah, listen, even even the the water you're talking about, the Jordan uh separating and being able to go on dry land, like we we know this is a uh a flashback to Moses. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:20

Um, but what what to me this is and where Jesus wasn't wasn't Jesus also baptized in the Jordan?

SPEAKER_00 20:24

So I mean it's in the Jordan. And and this is a moment where I think you have a city, same thing. These people go into the city, it is filled with different gods, they're not sure what's going on, they're already falling victim to a new city, and God is showing them I am the same God that was there with Moses. I could have done anything with the Jordan, but to do it the exact same way, but not hey, here's a staff before you get in, let me part it. It's you have to step in first, and then I will part it. Same thing. I mean, I can go, I know it's about Rahab, but the book of Joshua is so good, so incredibly filled. It's wild, it's wonderful. But but yes, I mean, this is the story of Rahab, and just kind of wrapping up my part of it, and then and then I will shut up. No, keep it going. I love this. Um Rahab, when we talk about all the quote unquote bad, whether or not we know the reason for, whether or not we're judging it too harshly, when all of that happens, Rahab ends up being faithful to God, and she goes from prostitute of Canaan to ancestor of Jesus Christ. I mean, she is in the ancestry in Matthew. This is a person who then with Solomon, Salman has Boaz, and it goes forward from there. You want to talk about a redemptive story of what God, I think, Javi, you said in the beginning where you feel like God uses bad for good. If you want to talk about that now, a redemptive story, that's that's that's way better.

SPEAKER_03 21:54

Yeah, there's no better than that.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

Yeah, she's it's it's great to see that. It's great to see that God uses regular people, regular situations for something that's bigger and greater, something that we would never see. And I think that's a great call for us all, you know. And they people use they use the word loosely legacy, right? Just kind of leaving your legacy. You don't know what's the mark that you leave on this earth, let alone your your line, your family. So I think as long as we continue to lean on God, we'll be able to He'll be able to bless our family so forth, right? We'll be able to pass down what we learn. And he uses he uses the the desolate. He uses the the the worst of the worst for for something greater that we can never see. And we have to trust in that. We have to be obedience to his call.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

Yeah, I mean it's it's about alignment. Even in this story, again, Baby Heb, but into the story of Joshua, Joshua goes to the angel and says, Hey, whose side are you on? And the angel doesn't answer him. He's on bolts. And the side he's on is who is in alignment with God. Because you see, the Israelites defeat the Canaanites, then they lose a battle because one man is disobeying God, and then they win again once they're back in alignment. And I think that this is so great. It's not about the the brokenness that we bring into this world because God accepts us by the brokenness. It's the alignment we have with him afterwards. And I think this entire book is about that.

Jericho As A Heart Metaphor

SPEAKER_03 23:19

So, you know, I know this is about Rahab, and I keep talking about the beginning story of Joshua. And for me, the whole thing is a hundred percent connected, like a hundred percent. And I I haven't I haven't played the metaphor game with you in a while, but follow follow me here. This story means something much bigger to me than the story of spies who go in, who talk to a prostitute, who then saves them, who then opens up this door for other things to happen. It's it's way bigger than that to me. This is the metaphor or even the analogy for the way a heart accepts God. This is the way, this is the analogy. Imagine Jericho is the heart itself. And so God sometimes has to send these little spies in to say, into the darkest parts of your heart, sometimes into the darkest parts of your life, and and the the the bad parts of you inside you that are that are bad can also see the good. And when and when those little pieces of of God get through the cracks and they're able to hide inside your heart and say, I'm gonna wait for you and I'm gonna wait till the right moment, then then they're able to go back out into the into the whole heart of God or into the whole you know, you know, spirit of God. And that's when, and here's the interesting part. Then the army surrounds the heart. The army's surrounding the heart, and it's just waiting for the walls to come down. I mean, that's an analogy we use today. You know, I'm waiting for the for the walls of my heart to come down so that I can accept, so I can soften, so I can do these things. And and and guess what? Here's the here's the thing. It's not that the soldiers break it down, it's that God dissolves them and it takes time. I I love the fact that they had to walk around for six and seven days. I think if they were to walk around for 25 minutes and all of a sudden the walls were to fall, it wouldn't be as impactful of a story. There was still some work to do from the outside. And I think depending on the way you form the analogy, the soldiers outside the door can either be, you know, the Holy Spirit that's doing its work, that's taking its time, that's not in a rush, that's that's doing those things, or it can be the people of the church. It can be you guys. It can be Javi and David who are who are circling around my heart until my heart finally, you know, collapsed and said, I need I need that that's outside more than I need what's inside. And and it comes from, and here's the thing that I think is so important, it's the exact same story you just told. It's just told in a metaphorical way. It comes from the bad things I had to go through in life. It comes through the negative experiences of my life, that the negative experiences actually enlightened the positive experiences. So anyway, to me, it's all connected. Like it's this isn't a story of Rahab, it's not a story of Jericho, it's not a story of Joshua, it's a story of God and how God uses all things for his glory.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

I love what you just said, and and I have been on the the side of trying to defend God and debate with this whole story, with with again the destruction of the city and all of that, and actually putting it that way, the symbolism of it is a very easy win for debates. I wish I had talked to you about this earlier. Um, because when when the walls finally go down and you finally accept the Lord, wouldn't you want the Lord to flood every inch of your heart, not to leave anything undone? And I'm exactly wow.

SPEAKER_03 26:30

And that's what he said that it was never about destroying of the people inside, it's destroying all the stuff that was there. It's about clearing the way and opening up a brand new space for new life to be built, a new society to be built. If if I am Jericho, yeah, break my walls down, destroy every single thing inside of it and build something entirely new inside it that is built on you. And that's different. It's a different story.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

2 Corinthians 5 17. You know, you the old is gone, the new is here. You know, when anyone is in Christ. So there you go.

SPEAKER_00 27:04

You said it. You you don't often drop a bomb that that has me sitting here pondering for hours after, but this is this is that one. I'm gonna there you go.

SPEAKER_03 27:14

I appreciate that. I don't say things that are that important. Thank you. Not that important. Yeah, you just kind of yeah, you're like, yeah, you just threw like a cherry bomb, like a tink. Boom, boom symbol.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

Yeah, usually you throw those little poppers. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 27:28

Exactly. I'm just I'm full of poppers, but nothing, nothing impactful.

SPEAKER_00 27:32

No, that one what what you said was just be I mean, it's beyond what God does in our lives, what God does truly, when we start to take a step out of ourselves, which is very, very hard, and just looking at whether the stories that are in the Bible as like you said, symbolism, or whether we look at it as literal, it both of them have really great importances. And because I look at things so literally, there are times I miss the symbolic nature. And what you just said is is truly profound and magnificent and all the things that you want out of a God, and then you look at that and go, thank you, God. Like you just said, fill me, knock my walls down and fill me. And man, that that's so good.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

I wanted to I wanted to add to it, if I can, Jason, if you let me. Yeah, please. You know, as as as God moves in and destroys the bad, he saves the person like a Rahab and her family. I think when he gets into her heart, you get into our hearts and we accept him, it passes on. It kind of exactly what I said before, it's it affects everybody around that person that he's saving.

SPEAKER_03 28:39

I see what you're saying. Yeah, it's generational. So it wasn't it wasn't about saving Rahab, it was about saving the rest of Rahab's family and her family to come in the future, which is why she became part of that. I mean, so just like you know, anybody who's dealing with something, I'm probably like pushing this too far, but I mean, if you're if you're somebody who's in a generational cycle and you take this step of knocking down your Jericho, the thing that's built beyond it is far beyond your wildest imagination. And it's not just about you, it's about what comes beyond you. A hundred percent. I would also, David, I would also love for you to read this, read this again too, and now look at the water things I was talking about earlier, because the water things take you on even more depth, no pun intended. When you, when you when you read through this now with that kind of metaphor in mind, it's really, it's really, really powerful stuff, guys.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

I mean, all of it. I'm listening I'm even connecting it, and I know we'll wrap up now, but I'm even connecting it with the moment that that God stood the sun still. And and even that moment, I'm going, God is is literally going against his own creative nature of the world for us to catch up. So he is knocking down the walls and holding back the sun itself for us to be filled. I mean, just man, I I I'm gonna go down this rabbit hole. Thanks for that. I won't sleep tonight. I'll be gone on this for a while.

Final Takeaways And Share Request

SPEAKER_03 29:53

I don't think you sleep well, but okay. I was gonna say, when what do you mean you're not gonna sleep? Since when do you do that? Guys, I always learn from these things, and today was no different. So thanks for the conversation. You taught us today. You know, I occasionally, occasionally I drop a little, a little boom. Today was the day. So, guys, thank you. Thank you for always being open to talk about these things and not avoiding any questions, comments, or otherwise. I think that's how we get to these honest conversations and find out some bigger stuff. So, and for those of you listening, thanks for sitting through all this with us. We hope you got something out of it as well. We love the likes, comments, and shares, but not because we like them, but because it helps other people find it as well. So the more likes, comments, and shares you can you can get into, it would be great because we want to be able to share these messages with others. And if you want to share them, you can also just do it one on one. So let somebody know. As always, thank you so much. We will talk to you again next week and see you soon. I'll see you guys.